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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://wheredidmybraingo.com/outstanding-bear-grylls-photo-gallery/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am embarrassed to say, that I cannot find my program CDs, but I think I have versions 5 through 8. Just moved and they are buried in a box somewhere, with other Windows stuff.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, found &lt;a href="http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&#38;iId=4445&#38;iTestingId=26954" rel="nofollow"&gt;notes for CD 7&lt;/a&gt;, and it works perfectly, except:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Copy/Paste doesn't work without native ole32.dll see &lt;a href="http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3611" rel="nofollow"&gt;bug #3611&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, I am interested in trying it. I used PP extensively from mid 80's to late 90's.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I once spent a week estimating the time to scan/convert images from large catalog for Web site. Then a month doing job with PP. Scarily, I am still doing same graphics tasks I did ten years ago.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Thank you&lt;/strong&gt; for also leading me to:
&lt;a href="http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation:Suse" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation:Suse&lt;/a&gt; which explains how to install IE6 on &lt;a href="http://www.novell.com/linux/desktop/" rel="nofollow"&gt;SLED 10&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That led me to a &lt;a href="http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/18418.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Novell explanation&lt;/a&gt;, which lead me to: &lt;a href="http://webexpose.org/2007/01/07/internet-explorer-7-on-linux/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://webexpose.org/2007/01/07/internet-explorer-7-on-linux/&lt;/a&gt; which explains how to install IE7 too. Wonder if Novell links to it because of Microsoft deal/WGA.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I don't know why I never thought of this, but this will save me more time than PP.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks again,&lt;br/&gt;Mitch&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am embarrassed to say, that I cannot find my program CDs, but I think I have versions 5 through 8. Just moved and they are buried in a box somewhere, with other Windows stuff.</p>
<p>However, found <a href="http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&amp;iId=4445&amp;iTestingId=26954" rel="nofollow">notes for CD 7</a>, and it works perfectly, except:</p>
<p>Copy/Paste doesn&#8217;t work without native ole32.dll see <a href="http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3611" rel="nofollow">bug #3611</a></p>
<p>Now, I am interested in trying it. I used PP extensively from mid 80&#8217;s to late 90&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I once spent a week estimating the time to scan/convert images from large catalog for Web site. Then a month doing job with PP. Scarily, I am still doing same graphics tasks I did ten years ago.</p>
<p><strong>Thank you</strong> for also leading me to:<br />
<a href="http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation:Suse" rel="nofollow">http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation:Suse</a> which explains how to install IE6 on <a href="http://www.novell.com/linux/desktop/" rel="nofollow">SLED 10</a></p>
<p>That led me to a <a href="http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/18418.html" rel="nofollow">Novell explanation</a>, which lead me to: <a href="http://webexpose.org/2007/01/07/internet-explorer-7-on-linux/" rel="nofollow">http://webexpose.org/2007/01/07/internet-explorer-7-on-linux/</a> which explains how to install IE7 too. Wonder if Novell links to it because of Microsoft deal/WGA.</p>
<p>Anyway, I don&#8217;t know why I never thought of this, but this will save me more time than PP.</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />Mitch</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kegel</title>
		<link>http://wheredidmybraingo.com/outstanding-bear-grylls-photo-gallery/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Picasa uses Wine internally.  i.e. when you install Picasa for Linux, it
installs an isolated copy of Wine in /opt/picasa.  It is only used for
Picasa, doesn't affect anything else.  That's why the user doesn't have
to install Wine or even know that Picasa is based on Wine.

I think Corel apps followed a similar strategy, bundling an internal
copy of Wine.  But that was over eight years ago, and Wine has improved
substantially since then.  It can run Photoshop CS2 very well, for instance.

About the two apps you mentioned (IE and PP): IE6 works in Wine, and
only if you install it using ies4linux (http://www.tatanka.com.br).
PP seems to be bundled with Corel Draw, so can see how well various versions of
PP work in wine by visiting the Corel Draw entry in the Wine AppDB:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&#38;iId=440
It looks like PP9 might work but other versions don't install under Wine.

Which version of PhotoPaint do you have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picasa uses Wine internally.  i.e. when you install Picasa for Linux, it<br />
installs an isolated copy of Wine in /opt/picasa.  It is only used for<br />
Picasa, doesn&#8217;t affect anything else.  That&#8217;s why the user doesn&#8217;t have<br />
to install Wine or even know that Picasa is based on Wine.</p>
<p>I think Corel apps followed a similar strategy, bundling an internal<br />
copy of Wine.  But that was over eight years ago, and Wine has improved<br />
substantially since then.  It can run Photoshop CS2 very well, for instance.</p>
<p>About the two apps you mentioned (IE and PP): IE6 works in Wine, and<br />
only if you install it using ies4linux (http://www.tatanka.com.br).<br />
PP seems to be bundled with Corel Draw, so can see how well various versions of<br />
PP work in wine by visiting the Corel Draw entry in the Wine AppDB:<br />
<a href="http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&amp;iId=440" rel="nofollow">http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&amp;iId=440</a><br />
It looks like PP9 might work but other versions don&#8217;t install under Wine.</p>
<p>Which version of PhotoPaint do you have?</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://wheredidmybraingo.com/outstanding-bear-grylls-photo-gallery/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Dan,
On &lt;a href="http://picasa.google.com/linux/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://picasa.google.com/linux/&lt;/a&gt; it says:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Uses these open source projects: WINE and Mozilla.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also found a link to a 2006 patch from you on
&lt;a href="http://code.google.com/opensource/wine.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://code.google.com/opensource/wine.html&lt;/a&gt; where it says: &lt;a href="http://dl.google.com/linux/src/picasa-2.7.3736-7.oss.tar" rel="nofollow"&gt;download the exact Wine source tarball used for Picasa 2.7.3736 (10 MB)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When did this change?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FWIW I tried WINE several years ago, when Corel released a Linux version of PhotoPaint (9?). At that time PP used WINE, but I kept disabling it, because it caused something (cannot remember what now) to crash repeatedly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had several years experience with PP, and did not want to have to learn GIMP. Frankly, I would still rather be using PP, for my limited image editing needs, than Gimp.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which leaves me with two questions:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;When did Picasa stop using WINE?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Does WINE work better now?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Would love to have IE and PP available. I currently use &lt;a href="http://browsershots.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Browsershots&lt;/a&gt; to check Web pages in IE.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Mitch&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan,<br />
On <a href="http://picasa.google.com/linux/" rel="nofollow">http://picasa.google.com/linux/</a> it says:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Uses these open source projects: WINE and Mozilla.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I also found a link to a 2006 patch from you on<br />
<a href="http://code.google.com/opensource/wine.html" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/opensource/wine.html</a> where it says: <a href="http://dl.google.com/linux/src/picasa-2.7.3736-7.oss.tar" rel="nofollow">download the exact Wine source tarball used for Picasa 2.7.3736 (10 MB)</a></p>
<p>When did this change?</p>
<p>FWIW I tried WINE several years ago, when Corel released a Linux version of PhotoPaint (9?). At that time PP used WINE, but I kept disabling it, because it caused something (cannot remember what now) to crash repeatedly.</p>
<p>I had several years experience with PP, and did not want to have to learn GIMP. Frankly, I would still rather be using PP, for my limited image editing needs, than Gimp.</p>
<p>Which leaves me with two questions:</p>
<ol>
<li>When did Picasa stop using WINE?</li>
<li>Does WINE work better now?</li>
</ol>
<p>Would love to have IE and PP available. I currently use <a href="http://browsershots.org/" rel="nofollow">Browsershots</a> to check Web pages in IE.</p>
<p>Thanks, Mitch</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kegel</title>
		<link>http://wheredidmybraingo.com/outstanding-bear-grylls-photo-gallery/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don't have to install Wine to run Picasa for Linux.
Installing Picasa does not affect the stability of one's Linux system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to install Wine to run Picasa for Linux.<br />
Installing Picasa does not affect the stability of one&#8217;s Linux system.</p>
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